cutting jobs. almost 15,000 so far -- well, 15,000 this year and over 76,000 so far this year. >> all right. john, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> meantime, the louisiana coast suffering from the bp oil leak disaster in the gulf. joining us from washington with more, democratic senator from louisiana, mary landrieu, member of the senate energy and natural resources committee and the homeland security and governmental affairs committee. senator, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> the latest update we're getting is that the winds are pretty calm, right? currents relatively calm, giving some of the workers down there some tailwind here, so to speak, but that's not going to last long, right? >> well, it's a very difficult situation under any circumstance, whether the seas are rough, there's some advantages and disadvantage to that, or whether they're calm. but the point is is that we have got to close and plug this well. it is a highly technical, very difficult situation. not only is bp doing their best, in my view.